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A guy from the dragon realms forum I post on brought this up there and I think I'm going to give it a try. He described it as what DR-TF should have been, which is hardcore playstyle in an RP setting. If you've never played a mud, it takes a certain aesthetic appreciation because it's all text and no graphics. Also, it'll be completely new to all who try which means less help than normal. Expect to die, and I mean permadeath with a few chars learning the game, if you decide to try it. It will be like AoC but with no pictures, but the potential to RP your way out of an eminent curb stomp. I'm sure that sounds fun, but we also tend to weed out the weak-hearted...

Joe, you have a natural knack for figuring rules and commands out, so if you're 50/50 to try it please know I'd appreciate you trying it with me.

http://www.armageddon.org/

wes link goes to another forum but this one should take you were you want to go.

have you actually read the rules? not to mention when do you plan to play? I have tried literally hundreds of muds over the years and nothing ever really came close to DR. I love the idea of a TF style world but i dont think this will be it. If you really really want to try it, i will give it a shot with you. But your going to have to write up the shit for my character. This looks like something that will end up catering to a very small cliche of players. I would perfer to stay in DR.

the more i read about this the worst it gets. You need to really read thru the help files before you decide you want to try this.

I meant the link to go SC to see his description. I in no way saw this as a DR replacement or even AoC replacement. I thought it sounded like a cross between a forum DnD game and TF, so I figured it would be worth wasting a few hours on.

If you hate the idea, don't sweat it; just saw it as something to fuck around with.

It was also free, so I figured kimi could try a mud if he wanted and krig could bounce in if interested.

its not just a few hours. You have to create and submit your character (complete description and RP backstory) which then has to be approved before you are even allowed to play.

you are only allowed to choose from a few basic races unless you have built karma on previous characters. You have to read all the fluff to create your history and description so you character fits their RP.

example if you choose a dwarf and describe his beard you will be turned down because dwarves are hairless here.

I know you hate dwarves but the point is made you cant use general assumptions or you will just waste your time.

You need to read thru all of the help files before we even think about this. Its not just a jump in and play game and if you read the information on their site I think you will agree with me that it requires a significant investment for a game that you are going to end up hating.

Fuck losing some xp in DR was enough to make you quit the game. You almost quit AoC because they nerfed the barbarian here you will completely lose you character and everything associated with them. You could be the best RPer in the fuckin game but all it takes is one asshole like me who doesnt give a shit about your RP and you lose everything.

i appreciate the basic Idea of the game as much as you do. But if you read thru the website, rules and FAQs i think you will feel the same way i do.

I haven't read the lore, but I knew about the character submissions and didn't see that as any more bullshit than a DnD or 40k char creation.

No big deal, I guess my blood elf char I submitted will send me into a two week tantrum when it's denied.

i edited my post previous post.

Reguardless of anything above if you want to play/try the game I will give it a shot with you. I just think you are going to end up hating it.

My take on my potential rage was I knew going in to not get attached to losing a char, kinda like how you gave a heads up in 40k RP. If I know not to put stock in the char then the rage is substantially less; though it would still suck.

You have to agree that with AoC and DR it was a surprise and unnecessary. Hell, the emails from DR gms even recognized how bull shit my situation was raped me anyways. AoC never got a class change/nerf right since day 1. I recognize my stasis level of rage is probably top 30% of players, but I should get some contextual slack with the two you mentioned.

Thrym wrote:

I haven't read the lore, but I knew about the character submissions and didn't see that as any more bullshit than a DnD or 40k char creation.

No big deal, I guess my blood elf char I submitted will send me into a two week tantrum when it's denied.

Blood Elves are fine.



On another note, I'm unsure about this. I wouldn't mind giving it a try if it was less geared toward satisfying some niche RP elitist and more accessible for a newb like me who knows nothing about MUDs. Not that I would mind dying 5 times learning the game, but it still would be a lot more enjoyable to stick with the same toon I am sure... That's if it ever gets accepted, but I don't know what the criterias are for the background.

With that mention of 40k... would you guys be interested of doing a little try a that instead?

Mud or forums based?

Thrym wrote:

My take on my potential rage was I knew going in to not get attached to losing a char, kinda like how you gave a heads up in 40k RP. If I know not to put stock in the char then the rage is substantially less; though it would still suck.

You have to agree that with AoC and DR it was a surprise and unnecessary. Hell, the emails from DR gms even recognized how bull shit my situation was raped me anyways. AoC never got a class change/nerf right since day 1. I recognize my stasis level of rage is probably top 30% of players, but I should get some contextual slack with the two you mentioned.

The two i mentioned werent ment as a jab or anything other than examples of what you are going to face in this game and past experinces with character loss. As far as the barb there was no true heads up to warn you that your build was on the nerfing block.

But with DR there was documented policy in place and i even warned you what was going to happen(not to the degree of your punishment, but you knew). I dont agree with the policy, but it is and was documented and available. I do agree the fact that it happened over a week later was complete bullshit and probably added to your rage(Rage is the wrong word. You never really raged about this and your decision to leave the game was actually a logical and rageless response) at the situtation. But a similar thing is going to happen here, when you lose your character. You left DR because you dont have the time to play it and advance your character, do you honestly think it will be different here?

Anyway I will start reading fluff and thinking up a character idea. What is our goal in this game?

hex! wrote:

Thrym wrote:

I haven't read the lore, but I knew about the character submissions and didn't see that as any more bullshit than a DnD or 40k char creation.

No big deal, I guess my blood elf char I submitted will send me into a two week tantrum when it's denied.

Blood Elves are fine.



On another note, I'm unsure about this. I wouldn't mind giving it a try if it was less geared toward satisfying some niche RP elitist and more accessible for a newb like me who knows nothing about MUDs. Not that I would mind dying 5 times learning the game, but it still would be a lot more enjoyable to stick with the same toon I am sure... That's if it ever gets accepted, but I don't know what the criterias are for the background.

With that mention of 40k... would you guys be interested of doing a little try a that instead?

If we are going to try the 40k RP we would need to run it over vent and i would want to use the new Death Watch rules. Death watch allows people to play Space marines which are much tougher the the dark hersey characters our guys played in the last campain. The book just released last week so I am not sure if there is a torrent out yet for it. Also i think we need to investigate a virtual table top software. I know their are several out there I just have never used any of them, i think it would make the game much more enjoyable for combat.

with deathwatch Dark Hersey Characters are still playable but a newbie Space marine is = approximately a rank 9 DH character. There is also another system called rouge trader that was released which is between the two. All of them are playable it just means that dark hersey or rouge trader characters would be boosted to Space marine level via extra starting xp.

I don't know if a MUD of that exists, I was simply proposing an alternative (I had forum based in mind).

But don't get me wrong tho, if you want to give it a shot, I don't mind trying it. I just hope you guys won't mind helping me out learning what it's all about, 'cause right now Russian language seems more friendly... lol

If I had to put my 2$ on something, it probably would be 40k, but I'll let you guys have the final decision on what you plan on trying as I have no experience with any of those 2 (Armageddon or 40k RPG).

I found a free Virtual Tabletop if we decide on playing 40k. I'm not sure how well it performs though. Link here.

we could try both since most table top RPGs are one or 2 nights a week.
I found a free table top software i like its here it runs off java and if we can make it work is easy to use.